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Welcome to let's Talk About it, the podcast where we shine a light on the change agents and everyday heroes who shape our communities.
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Here we dive deep into the lived experiences of our guests, exploring the milestone moments that have either propelled them forward or changed their paths moments that have either propelled them forward or changed their paths.
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We anchor every conversation in two foundational pillars of the Black community books and music.
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Through this unique lens, we capture, entertain and inform, weaving a rich tapestry of stories and insights that resonate, inspire and spark meaningful dialogue.
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Join our host, tj Lowry and Shatima Grisham, as they engage with thought leaders and community change agents to uncover the rich tapestry of experiences that shape our lives.
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Get ready for insightful discussions, unfiltered perspectives and the celebration of Black excellence.
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Let's talk about it of Black Excellence.
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Let's talk about it.
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Hey everyone, and welcome to let's Talk About it the podcast.
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I'm your girl, tj, and I'm so excited to dive into another show where we bring you another community change agent.
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But before we do that, I've got to introduce my fabulous co-host.
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How you doing, shatima?
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What's up, tj?
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Good, good, so we got a new little space, girl.
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How?
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you feeling about it.
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I'm feeling real good about it.
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I love the vibe for sure.
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Me too, I feel like we're moving on up like the Jeffersons Moving on up and quick and quick.
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So I really just kind of wanted to ask you about health and wellness today, especially with all that we have to navigate in HR.
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You are an entrepreneur, a mommy.
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What do you do, Shatima, to make sure you are also self-care, self-preservation and putting on your mask?
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That's a multifaceted question.
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I think it's an ongoing process.
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For me, some weeks, months, days, I feel more balanced than others.
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I just have to.
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For me, I have to remind myself to go easy on myself.
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I think sometimes we feel like we have to get everything done and then when you're not able to get everything done and that's when we start to kind of pick ourselves apart so for me, I have to, you know, remind myself like, okay, we got seven of the 10 things done, or we got the most important things done, or you know what we had to call an audible and just be present for ourselves and how we're feeling, you know, and listening to my body.
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So, like um, like I said, some days I feel a little better about what I've gotten done and other days not, maybe not so much Um, but I've just learned to be easy with myself.
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I find myself meditating a lot more now.
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Um, it's something new into my practice, daily practice, probably the spring, and since I've done that, like now, I want to do it more.
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I spend a lot of time outside just enjoying nature.
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If it's 10 minutes, I just want to go out and be in the yard and be with the trees, right, and just get some sunshine.
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You know, I work in an office where it's dark.
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In the aquarium it's pretty dark, and so we have to be intentional about getting that nature and sunshine, and so I enjoy that time.
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Because I spend so much time in meetings and on the phone and talking, oh yeah.
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And so when I'm meditating, I'm feeling and measuring my own senses and being aware of, you know, my mental state and having to say, dang, I might need to take some time off next week, or you know, really just focusing on what's happening and what's coming and not just doing yeah, and so I do a lot of meditation Again, even if it's 10 minutes, on my way to work.
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That's me preparing for war.
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I am listening to affirmations all the way there.
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You know I might take a call or two, but those I am's are so essential so that I can stay grounded and just right here.
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So the Black HR Society was also created for that same reason.
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We wanted to create a safe space for black HR professionals.
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Because we deal with a lot.
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You know we're focusing on the staff, the team, but who's really focusing on us, right?
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And so I just wanted to take that moment to recenter us and make sure that, as HR practitioners and just professionals, you know we are doing that.
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I think today's guest, which I'm excited for you to introduce us to, knows a little bit about that.
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So who are you introducing us to today?
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Absolutely Thank you for that, tj, though, but thank you for the reminder, you know, to get outside and connect with nature, and so so I appreciate that, but I'm excited about our guest, who's also our friend, miss Whitney Harvey.
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Welcome to, let's Talk About it.
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Thank you for having me, ladies, it's such a pleasure to be here, awesome.
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Well, let me get your intro out of the way, because it's heavy over there.
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You've been doing a lot.
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So we have Whitney Harvey.
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She is the CEO of Gen 38 and self-coached lawyer.
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She's an esteemed business strategist, a consultant and a motivational speaker who integrates legal expertise and wellness into practice.
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Now her credentials is she holds her Juris Doctorate from ASU Sandra Day O'Connor's College of Law and is pursuing a Doctor of Philosophy in General Psychology, with a specialization in Industrial and Organizational Psychology.
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Get it, girl.
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Thank you.
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Welcome to.
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Let's Talk About it.
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Thank you for having me.
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It feels good, it's good energy in the room always is with you two, so thank you for having me.
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Absolutely yeah you for having me.
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Absolutely yeah, you look beautiful as ever.
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We're really excited to dig into the episode and really just share with our audience more about you.
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You know we've seen you on social doing your thing out in these social streets.
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Shatima and I are trying to catch up.
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You've surpassed me.
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What?
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Yes, okay, because you out here with and I'm excited.
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Before we jump into the show, we are HR practitioners and so we like to do a little.
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What do you call it?
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Ice breakers, that's what we do.
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Yes, let's talk about it.
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So we'll ask you a question.
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Just give us the first thing that comes to mind, your first thought.
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Okay, first thing that comes to mind, you know?
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Uh, the for your first thought.
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Okay, so coffee or tea, tea, okay, we have coffee and we got it as soon as we got all day, all day sweet or savory, definitely savory savory, yeah me too, girl me too, unless it's the combo.
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I like the combo sweet, savory morning or night, morning, morning.
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She's team, she's team, I am team morning.
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Tj is not.
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She's up all night.
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It's all night, night out.
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And then I start in the dark of the day too, so I feel like night is when I want to work.
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What's your favorite season?
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The fall?
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Is that Arizona?
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fall or Traditional fall, because we do not have that traditional fall.
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Well, I would say Arizona.
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So September to November, okay.
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Arizona fall.
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That's what.
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I thought what about?
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What's your favorite app?
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My favorite app Ooh Instagram right now.
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Instagram.
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Text or call.
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You prefer text or calling Texting, texting.
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I'm Gen X, so I'm a caller.
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I prefer the call.
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Yeah we want to just hurry up and tell you.
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I want you to hear my tone and inflections, because that means something.
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Yes, I ain't even clicking over.
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I like it.
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I don't mind a scheduled call, but like the impromptu and a fist bump.
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That's work.
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A scheduled call, let's schedule it.
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I like that.
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What about your guilty pleasure TV show?
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Real Housewives.
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Anything, Anything.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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Do you have a favorite one?
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um potomac right now?
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yeah, pretty good.
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Yeah, do you think atlanta will?
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bounce back, you know, maybe because phadra's coming back which?
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she was always my favorite.
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Yeah, firecracker, phadra, yes, but if we could get phadra and nini together like together like old times.
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It'll be like old times.
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It'll be a throwback Sex with the lights on or off.
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Ooh, I say off, yeah.
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Yeah, I know that sounds vanilla, but I just think you can really be like unleash everything and just really be free.
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I heard while you get over your 40, unleash everything and just really be free.
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I heard you get over your 40s, you're not going to care, right.
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We didn't get enough to turn them off, so whatever happened, when this is where we're at, there you go.
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Yeah, what was the last book you read?
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I did a repeat of one of my favorites.
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It's through Audible so I wasn't actually open.
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But the Power, the Power, yes, by Rhonda Byrne.
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Okay, so she does like the secret, that whole series.
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I love the Power and you're reading it twice.
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This is probably like my I don't know 100th time Wow.
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Yes, we might need this.
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Yes, since 2015,.
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I just love playing it over and over.
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Do you remember what was on the cover?
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of the book?
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Oh my goodness.
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No, because it's audible and I feel like it's just like the power.
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Yeah, so I don't remember if it's like a star, but it's her branding, sure.
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Yeah, so they say the cover of a book is what lures an audience in.
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If we picked up the book of Whitney, what would be on your cover, whitney, and for you, this would be also what lures us in.
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And also how you show up, how you present to people Today present cute, by the way, I see it Funky love boots.
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How do?
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you show up how you present to people Today, present cute by the way, I see you.
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I see you, funky little boots.
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How do you show up?
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I like, I mean.
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So I think I like a little element of an edge, so like whether it's the leather boots or a leather jacket, the big sunglasses, so I like a component of that.
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And then I like bright, bold colors.
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I see you have the red lip, the red, you know pants, I love red everything.
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So I think it would be probably me in some sort of stance where it is like super powerful but like edgy.
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So professional and edgy, I like to have the dichotomy of both.
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I like that, and that's how you show up too, I assume, right With that little edge on you.
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You're a lawyer, so you've got the serious piece, but you're edgy with it, exactly I like that.
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I definitely like that.
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So the back cover of the book is what convinces us to buy the book.
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What would your back cover say?
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Ooh.
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So the back cover would be really looking at this resiliency in motion.
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I would say that describes everything I do.
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Everything I touch is just how can I turn lemons into lemonade?
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So it's going to be a story of in every facet of life, turning any dip into empowerment.
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So, whether it's workplace, whether it's relationship like romantic or friendships, or even family dynamics, I'm just going to always turn a situation into something for the positive and make the best out of it.
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So I'm going to turn it into my advantage.
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Are you the cheerleader in the family if things are going blah, blah, blah?
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Yeah, I would say so A little bit of come on, you feel, half full person is what I'm hearing.
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Absolutely, I can't stay down too long.
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Like you know, we're going to always have moments where we're up and down, but I would say I'm mostly up or I'm trying to get out of it, like I'm trying to figure it out.
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I can't just stay down, it figure it out.
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I can't just stay down.
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It just doesn't feel conducive to me and my energy, so I'm an overcomer.
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You don't want that low vibration.
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We need high vibration and we need to survive yeah.
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And we'll attract high vibration.
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So for sure.
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So what people, place or event was most impactful to you along the way?
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Let's see people.
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Definitely my mom.
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I know TJ knows who my mom is she has an HR background and you know she had me at 17 teenage mom, single mom.
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So in a lot of ways we just, you know, grew up together and had to be strength for each other.
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So I would definitely say that she's been a backbone for me in everything and a motivator for me too.
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She never wanted any doors closed to me.
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So she's like pick a career, pick something powerful, pick something that no one can close the door on you.
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Yeah, I love that.
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I know.
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Shout out to Miss Colette by the way also from our hometown, milwaukee, wisconsin, who introduced us because she was supporting you and she, you know, during your transition to doing your own thing.
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She said we should meet and I'm very grateful that she did.
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Coming from our area, teen pregnancy was a commonality, you know.
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I remember being in that time frame in Milwaukee, having the highest teen pregnancy.
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I was so scared my kids, would you know, end up in the statistics.
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I was a teen pregnancy and you know that was our environment.
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So but look at us now, you know, glowing up and really just supporting you, and I'm glad she's done that for you because we're proud of you.
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Thank you.
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And everything you're doing.
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Thank you, I appreciate it.
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It's nice to be able to.
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I think in the past I would share that story and, depending on the rooms I would be in, I felt some shame around it, not knowingly, but you know, I've realized that as I've processed my journey of there'll be times I would omit that and I've just been leading with them more and more.
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Every space I'm in of like boom.
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This is how I came into the world, but not in a negative.
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That's right.
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It's not.
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It's not, it's your testimony you know, and this year I've been really pushed to share my testimony and I think this is, you know, a good space for us to do that so thank you for sharing and being vulnerable in that space.
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Now if, um, I called your book the book of Whitney but if you did write your book, what would the title be?
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And then share some of those chapters that were really pivotal.
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Um, that would resonate with people what they'll walk away with yeah, okay.
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So title, I'm just gonna go with it because it's kind of the movement I'm on right now.
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I like it.
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What they'll walk away with, yeah, okay.
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So title, I'm just going to go with it because it's kind of the movement I'm on right now.
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I like it, I like it.
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So release the fuck boy energy.
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Yes, hurry up and write that.
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I know I've been slow to write it.
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I've been slow to write it, Whoa you better get that book written and on the shelves.
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Well, I started with the event, so we've been doing the event.
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It's a breathwork event plus hip hop music, getting women together and like whatever fuckboy energy is for you Like.
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For me it was romantic relationships, but for some people is workplace work, is grief.
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You know it through that.
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Using it as a post-traumatic growth opportunity, yeah, and so that would be the name of the book and the chapters I'm buying.
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I'm buying off the title.
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I'm waiting for it.
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I'm on the way, Lips.
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Well, I'll have it, make sure.
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I'll personally sign it.
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And y'all have to catch me in the city of your choice because we want to take it and make it a tour.
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I love it.
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Yes, that'll be exciting and then the chapters will be.
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You know it's going to be a lot of dynamics, but for me in particular, looking at romantic relationships, there was a lot of, you know, fuck boy energy I endured there and looking at how that pattern in the way I perceive my relationship to people, how that translated into the workplace and translate it now as an entrepreneur Right, you know, if you were always a people pleaser and you're trying to overcome that, there's going to be that thread through all kinds of areas of your life.
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Absolutely.
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Setting the boundaries, even with family.
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Yeah, being able to push back on things that are not conducive to our our mental health and well-being so I know that I'm sorry.
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I want to know if you'll like peel back the layers a little bit for the audience and define because you said it can be in the workplace and I feel, like we know you know that context of it knows.
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But for the people in the audience that, like we know you know that context of it knows, but for the people in the audience that may not know, how do you define that fuckboy energy?
